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Tony Mcgray's avatar

I think it's a big mistake for DU to bow down to this letter nonsense. especially since Z has become a symbol for fascist Russia. Already, younger people in the UK say that they wouldn't enlist. With this label still attached to them, you can imagine the tabloid headlines if war breaks out.

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Curious Observer's avatar

Interesting that in instances like this you have to bow to other people's convention of identifying a "Gen Z" that came into being around 1996, give or take -- and not the Homelanders that came along starting circa 2005.

Is this the first instance of the media hive-mind creating a generation rather than it emerging spontaneously? Would be an interesting discussion on the podcast sometime -- way more interesting than Mr. Howe opining about the Middle East, for sure.

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Joshua's avatar

From my understanding, the mainstream media (MSM) has several key deviations from Strauss-Howe's generational definitions. Example is the MSM definition of Boomer's being until 1964. Strauss-Howe have the cut-off as 1960. Also, at one point the MSM mis-timelined Gen X. Then of course, Millenials having the severely premature cut-off as 1996. With the MSM generational timelines currently, there's no capacity for them to even recognize a Homelander generation. However, Strauss-Howe's predictive ability with their generational model has proven very accurate and valid, having it be the far superior model. Going back to 1991's Generations they've predicted a tumultuous 2020 decade and then in 1997 with the 4th Turning, the 2008 Great Recession. And other accurate predictions. With the superiority of the Strauss-Howe model, I've learned to tune out the MSM models, even with the reality of that not being relevant in the MSM conversations about it.

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